Sam and I had planned our route to London to pay our respects to the Queen, who will be lying-in-state in Westminster Hall from tomorrow evening until early Monday morning 19th September. We would drive to Thurrock Services on the Saturday evening, stay overnight at the Days Inn, and then drive to Dartford railway station as early as we could manage on the Sunday morning. From Dartford station we would get a train all the way to Charing Cross, thus avoiding having to go anywhere near the London Underground tube system, which I detest. From Charing Cross it would be but a short walk to Westminster Hall.
Then came the warnings on T.V. There would be long, long queues, possibly overnight, as millions of people would arrive in London. There would be travel chaos, with crowded trains and buses. There would be airport-like security checks in Westminster Hall, and random checks as people queued. We could only take a small bag with one compartment, and there would be no chance to sit down. We would have to bring food and drink and warm clothing for the duration, but could only take a small plastic bottle of drink.
They had forgotten something… what about toilets? Nobody on T.V has mentioned them, and it’s as if suddenly we have no need of them. However, for somebody who has to sip water every five minutes due to having no working salivary glands, toilets were the first thing I thought of. Yes, I’m a practical person who checks out these things, just as my youngest son used to do when he was a child. As long as there was a toilet he was happy to go anywhere. On T.V I saw the rush of people who had descended on St. Giles’ Cathedral in Edinburgh to view the lying-in-state there, and there was soon 20,000 people in a mile-long queue. What did they do regarding toilets, lol?
20,000 people is a pin in the ocean when it comes to London. Millions are expected to turn up in queues possibly 6 – 12 hours long. Hmm… was it like this when the old Queen Mum died? I don’t remember what happened 20 years ago now, but I’m certain that many more people than in 2002 will make their way to Westminster Hall. Can they all last 12 hours without going to the toilet? Why on earth am I thinking of such things? I’m sure that 40 years ago I would have skipped off happily to London and stood in the queue, but I’m 64 now and fings ain’t what they used to be…
I’ve changed my mind, and Sam is relieved. We’re going to watch the lying-in-state and the funeral on T.V.
I like your train of thought.
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I too was thinking about heading to London but decided against it too. I saw the plane taking her from Scotland to London. I’ve told myself that she flew over my house especially so I could say Goodbye from the comfort of my driveway ♥
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I too was thinking about hea
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On the News, I saw people camping out on Lambeth Embankment in the rain last night. My first comment was “What about toilets?” Local pubs and cafes, fast-food places and any building with public access are all going to be inundated. I wouldn’t want to be a toilet cleaner in Westminster!
Best wishes, Pete.
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There’s a map appeared on the BBC News app with the route, and Portaloo toilets are marked. Dread to think of the state of them though…
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This seems like a wise decision to me. You can still pay your respects from afar.
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Yes.
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Yes always my first thought. I know there will be rows and rows of portaloos, but as one commentator said, how easy will it be to squeeze through the crowds to get to them. My daughter and her friend went up in their guide uniforms to see the Queen Mother and found luxury portaloos when they got to the end of the queue. But New Years in London, Dianna, any event involving crowds and toilet uncertainty I have missed out on. Ps when they talked of the six hour drive down from Balmoral we were thinking What! Did they stop at motorway services for a comfort stop…
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The drivers did stop, and the TV presenter waffled for a while. I’m still uncertain as to whether to go to London, but have until Saturday night to make up my mind.
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I can understand you wanting to go but I think you’ve made the right decision. The queuing sounds horrendous and if it is a lottery of who gets in I hate to think what will happen to all those who get turned away when time runs out. It may not be quite the same but watching on tv seems much more practical.
And it’s good to see that Yvette doesn’t just drop her amazing typos on my blog, too 😊
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They just said on the News that around 400,000 people will be lucky enough to attend.
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Doesn’t sound like good odds to me!
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I was up there yesterday, Stevie and portaloos are being installed along the queuing route. They are going to hand out wrist bands so you can leave the queue to relieve yourself and not lose your place. But all that might be a small consolation if you queue and don’t get in as they are suggesting only (!) 350,000 out of the prospective million might shuffle past in the planned four days. Ill stick to the TV, methinks
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Thanks for that info. Do you mean that they’re only going to let in 350,000, or that only 350,000 might turn up? Now I know they’re installing portaloos it might be 350,002…
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As I read it, Stevie, it’s 350,000 who might have time to see the coffin, though they expect about 1 million to turn up in hope. They have no idea, let’s be honest! This may help. If you come, you’re welcome to park on our drive or on the roads nearby (no parking restrictions around here); we’re near (5 minutes walk) to a station (Gipsy Hill) with direct access to London Bridge station and that’s a five minute walk to Southwark park which looks like it’s the muster point for the queue.
https://metro.co.uk/2022/09/13/the-expected-route-of-queue-to-see-the-queen-lying-in-state-in-london-17363712/
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That’s very kind of you, Geoff. Sam is away in Sweden this week on business, and didn’t seem too keen on travelling to London. I must say after I clicked on your link I tend to agree with him, but will speak to him tonight when he phones.
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I understand; it could be very frustrating.
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I don’t fancy queueing for 30 hours, lol.
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Good point about the toilets – and the lines sound miserable – it would have been great to be there in perish but thankfully can pay respects virtually (and even sharing this post honors her in a way too 🙏☀️)
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Yes, we can also pay our respects at memorials locally, which is more convenient.
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Yes!! More convenient and maybe even more personal
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